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Something is wrong.
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I don't know.
I don't feel good in here.
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I'm losing my family.
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This is pure evil.
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She doesn't remember dying.
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This is a hell house, and I
just feel like we're cursed.
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Doorway's been opened.
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Living people have a lot
of horrible experiences
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in this place.
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This seems
like a possession.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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Everything was built on blood.
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I see dead people.
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Very disturbing.
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I speak to dead people.
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There's victims around him.
Ow.
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And they speak to me.
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Her voice sounds like death.
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But there's only one way
to know if my findings are real.
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The living don't
stand a chance here.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York City
homicide detective.
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You could have
got killed.
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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This is coming
straight from hell.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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Your mom was murdered
right here in this room?
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Yes, she was.
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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...until the very end...
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This was
just the beginning.
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...when we uncover
if it's safe for you to stay...
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Oh, my God.
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...or time to get out.
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They're very bad.
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This house
is going to kill me.
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I'm out here
in Layton, Utah.
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It's a suburb
of Salt Lake City.
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I got called in by
a guy named Craig.
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This guy thought he was doing
the right thing by his daughter
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and her family
when he bought them a house
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just down the street
from him.
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Problem is this.
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Something in that house is going
after his 6-year-old grandson,
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and the activity is
ripping his family apart.
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He sounded pretty desperate, and
I'm hoping we can help him out.
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Before Amy arrives,
I clear the area of anything
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that might influence
her findings.
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Personal items
and family photographs
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have to be covered or removed.
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When I'm finished,
tonight's walk can begin.
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Something is wrong here.
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I'm hearing wreaking havoc,
causing commotion.
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Don't like this place.
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There's a lot of sadness
in this house.
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This is not good.
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Living people have a lot
of horrible experiences
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in this place.
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When we spoke on the phone,
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you sounded like you were
at the end of your rope.
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What the hell
is going on here?
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I'm losing my family,
and I need some help.
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All right.
So, Craig, you don't live here.
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No.
I don't live here.
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I bought this house
for my daughter.
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That's my daughter,
Emily.
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This is my son-in-law,
Justin.
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This is my grandson,
Hayden.
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He's just turned
6 years old.
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We wanted to help them out.
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But you know what?
It's so bad.
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They can't even live here.
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After being here a month,
Emily and Hayden had to leave.
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Okay. Where to?
To my house.
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Okay.
So who's living here now?
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My son-in-law, Justin,
has been here all by himself
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for the last 5 months,
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and he refuses to leave.
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Okay. So what's going on
in the house?
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Footsteps,
doors opening and closing.
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We also experience
shadow people.
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When we spoke
on the phone,
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you mentioned that
your grandson was an issue.
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I have seen a dramatic
change in him.
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He used to be
a sweet little child.
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Now he's a terror.
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Lots of 6-years-old
are terrors. No.
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Whatever this is has taken
complete control of him.
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I firmly believe
he is being possessed.
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This thing here has one goal,
one goal, and that is to hurt.
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Why don't you just sell this
house and get out of here?
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Moving them out will not
solve the problem
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because this thing
here travels.
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It goes down to our house.
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When they moved in, all of a
sudden, it started to go crazy.
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Shadow people showed up.
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What are you hoping
we can do for you?
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Plain and simple,
my family needs to be protected.
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That's all
that I care about.
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There's a kid here,
like, a boy, a male.
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Was he a living person?
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Pretty sure.
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He's out of control.
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He's out of control.
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He's got a lot of rage.
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Oh, he's, like, screaming
and yelling and freaking out
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and just losing his [bleep],
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like, starting fights.
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There's something...
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not right
with his scream.
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You weren't kidding
when they said
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they got out of here
in a hurry.
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They didn't even unpack.
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They stopped because
of the activity.
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So why'd you bring me
in here?
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Hayden has told us time
and time again,
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"Down here, I see
shadow people go like this."
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They cover their arms
like this. Okay.
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And they disappear in the walls,
and they come out of the walls.
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Are these the same shadow
figures you told me you've seen?
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Yes.
Okay. Anything else?
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I came downstairs here,
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and I was right up
against the door
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that leads into
the lower basement.
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I could feel something
grab at me.
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So did it feel like a person
was grabbing you?
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It felt like three
separate sets of arms
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had grabbed me
around the chest,
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and it grabbed me
around the stomach,
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and it grabbed me
around my legs,
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so I couldn't get away.
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Now, did you hear or see
anything when this was going on?
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No.
Okay. Anything else?
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Every time that we're here,
you can always feel
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somebody watching you.
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You just feel that
you're just not alone.
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You on any medication,
drinking, maybe?
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No.
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If we do nothing,
and it goes unchecked,
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what do you think
could happen?
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I worry, and I expect that
my grandson will be hurt.
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As a father, I feel like
I have failed my daughter
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because the intent
was to help her,
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and it just torments me
that I didn't see this coming.
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There's an older man.
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He's dead.
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He's probably in his,
like, 60s or 50s,
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hates everybody.
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How would the living
be affected by this?
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I'm assuming that they feel
watched by him.
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He'll call your name.
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This is odd.
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It seems like he's kind of
becoming part of the house.
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He's, like, in the wall.
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He's, like, losing his
consciousness into the house.
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Talked to your
father-in-law.
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He basically said you're
the last man standing here.
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Yes.
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So I'm assuming
you've had experiences.
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Oh, yeah.
Okay.
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Why don't you tell me
about some of them?
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I saw an apparition
on the inside
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of the bathroom door
of a face.
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Now, is there a way
you could describe
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how it looked on the door?
Yeah.
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It was almost like it
was painted on there,
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almost like a face, like,
kind of just smeared down.
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Now, is there a window
in that restroom?
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Yes.
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So was it anything that was
coming in from the outside?
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No, couldn't be.
Light doesn't really pierce in.
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Anything else?
Well, I was laying in bed,
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and I got this really
cold breeze on my face,
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and I couldn't tell
where it came from,
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and all of a sudden,
the temperature of the room
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seemed to drop about 20,
30 degrees.
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Was the fan on?
No, fan was off.
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You have AC units?
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We have one vent over here
on the floor,
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and it's not
connected to the AC.
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So it sounds like your family
is going through some intense,
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bizarre stuff here.
Yeah.
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That's why my wife and son
are not in the house no more.
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So how is Hayden doing
when you do see him?
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His attitude and demeanor
has changed
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ever since
we got this house.
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He goes into, as we, you know,
like, fits or, you know,
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stuff like that,
and he shuts down on us.
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How are you dealing
with that?
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It's rough.
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It's hard being away
from both of them,
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but it's the safety thing.
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I feel they're safer
over there.
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It sounds like you're
being stubborn staying here.
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Why don't you just
get the hell out?
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No matter what they do,
they're not going to run me off.
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This is my house.
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I'm going to stay here,
and I'm going to fight.
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Okay.
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There's another dead guy
down here.
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He's young.
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He doesn't want us here.
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He's a problem.
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He can project cold.
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Living people would feel the ice
right up their spine,
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right at their neck,
like, the hair raising up.
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He can also push people away
with his emotions.
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You feel that.
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The young dead guy
also likes to come in here.
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This is uncomfortable.
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This is disgusting.
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Why are you saying that?
What's he doing?
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He watches them.
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He stalks them.
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He's a voyeur.
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He is a [bleep] pervert.
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So I'm to understand
that the activity got so bad
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that you moved out
with your son.
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Yes.
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I left knowing that it would be
the best thing for him.
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This is something that
I cannot protect him from.
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Justin stayed behind.
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How is that affecting
your marriage?
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It's not easy.
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The things that
we've been through,
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most people would not
be married anymore.
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So what experiences
have you had?
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I've seen the shadow figures
all over the house.
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Okay.
Can you describe them?
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The ones that I've seen
have been pitch black,
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shaped like a human figure.
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Have you seen them
at your dad's house, too?
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Yes.
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Now, Emily, did you ever
experience anything paranormal
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before you moved here?
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I've experienced the paranormal
my entire life.
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Did Hayden have any problems
before moving here?
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Yeah.
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Ever since he was a baby,
he's always seen things,
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heard things.
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So as you know,
your father called us in...
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- Yes.
- ...because he was worried about
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how this house
was affecting Hayden.
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Mm-hmm.
How are you seeing it?
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Personality-wise, this house
has just completely changed him.
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He's gotten very
violent at times.
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You know, there's nothing
there in his eyes.
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I mean, that's not my boy.
All right.
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So what do you think
is going on?
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I don't know,
maybe a possession.
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I just feel
like we're cursed.
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I'm seeing a living woman
in here.
255
00:12:06,001 --> 00:12:07,201
Can you describe her?
256
00:12:07,203 --> 00:12:12,105
The only thing I really
kind of feel is her age,
257
00:12:12,107 --> 00:12:16,877
so I'm thinking my age
or possibly a little younger.
258
00:12:16,879 --> 00:12:19,079
She feels responsible,
somehow.
259
00:12:19,081 --> 00:12:20,647
Responsible for what?
260
00:12:20,649 --> 00:12:23,884
I guess for her kid
wigging out or some [bleep].
261
00:12:23,886 --> 00:12:28,355
She feels like, somehow,
because of her genetics,
262
00:12:28,357 --> 00:12:30,457
that her family is cursed.
263
00:12:30,459 --> 00:12:33,594
Maybe she's had encounters
or experiences
264
00:12:33,596 --> 00:12:36,563
with shadow people
throughout her life.
265
00:12:39,401 --> 00:12:42,236
Feels like things
are following her.
266
00:12:47,476 --> 00:12:48,642
What are you experiencing
here?
267
00:12:48,644 --> 00:12:51,345
I've heard several
different voices.
268
00:12:51,347 --> 00:12:52,479
Okay.
What are you hearing?
269
00:12:52,481 --> 00:12:56,783
Basically to cause harm
to my family.
270
00:12:56,785 --> 00:12:59,953
You on any medication that
may cause this kind of thing?
271
00:12:59,955 --> 00:13:01,555
No, no.
272
00:13:01,557 --> 00:13:03,023
All right.
Anything else?
273
00:13:03,025 --> 00:13:06,460
I've been hit many times.
Okay. So give me an example.
274
00:13:06,462 --> 00:13:08,829
Hayden and I were
in the bathroom.
275
00:13:08,831 --> 00:13:12,032
I decided to open to door,
and that's when I got punched,
276
00:13:12,034 --> 00:13:15,369
and the side of my face
was completely swollen.
277
00:13:15,371 --> 00:13:17,170
And this has happened
many times?
278
00:13:17,172 --> 00:13:20,173
I mean, if I'm in this house
longer than 20 minutes,
279
00:13:20,175 --> 00:13:23,310
I just get brutally hit.
280
00:13:23,312 --> 00:13:24,711
All right.
Is there anything else?
281
00:13:24,713 --> 00:13:27,781
You know, physically, I've
just completely felt drained,
282
00:13:27,783 --> 00:13:30,317
just sick,
nauseated, at times.
283
00:13:30,319 --> 00:13:33,787
Both Hayden and I
get horrible headaches.
284
00:13:33,789 --> 00:13:36,657
How is this affecting you,
emotionally, and your family?
285
00:13:36,659 --> 00:13:38,792
It's just, like, at times,
I just want to give up.
286
00:13:41,196 --> 00:13:43,797
This is a hell house.
287
00:13:51,206 --> 00:13:54,608
This young dead guy really
messes with the living here.
288
00:13:57,346 --> 00:14:01,515
He causes
the bad headaches here.
289
00:14:01,517 --> 00:14:04,117
He likes to be
right on females.
290
00:14:04,119 --> 00:14:07,688
They would feel his
breathing on their necks,
291
00:14:07,690 --> 00:14:12,659
so I think women would feel
uncomfortable with his presence.
292
00:14:12,661 --> 00:14:16,597
I think the women would hear
their names being called.
293
00:14:16,599 --> 00:14:20,233
He's definitely a predator.
294
00:14:25,341 --> 00:14:26,740
He can travel.
295
00:14:26,742 --> 00:14:29,710
He can leave with the women.
296
00:14:29,712 --> 00:14:31,311
This is weird.
297
00:14:31,313 --> 00:14:33,981
There's dark stuff going on.
298
00:14:33,983 --> 00:14:36,984
I keep hearing,
"Magic, magic, magic,"
299
00:14:36,986 --> 00:14:40,921
and a doorway
has been opened,
300
00:14:40,923 --> 00:14:44,491
and shadow figures are coming in
from another dimension.
301
00:14:46,562 --> 00:14:48,228
That's not a good sign.
302
00:14:54,570 --> 00:14:55,602
Hayden, how old are you?
303
00:14:55,604 --> 00:14:56,770
Six.
304
00:14:56,772 --> 00:14:58,605
You got some scary things
happening here?
305
00:14:58,607 --> 00:14:59,740
Mm-hmm.
306
00:14:59,742 --> 00:15:01,475
So, Hayden, what are you
seeing in the house?
307
00:15:01,477 --> 00:15:02,809
I see shadow people...
Okay.
308
00:15:02,811 --> 00:15:03,810
...dark ones.
309
00:15:03,812 --> 00:15:06,146
Dark ones?
310
00:15:06,148 --> 00:15:08,682
Yeah. They look at me.
311
00:15:08,684 --> 00:15:11,351
Do you see them a lot?
Yeah.
312
00:15:11,353 --> 00:15:13,053
Do they do anything
when you're with them?
313
00:15:13,055 --> 00:15:14,821
They give me headaches.
314
00:15:14,823 --> 00:15:17,758
Okay. Does it hurt bad?
Yeah.
315
00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,059
Do they talk to you
at all?
316
00:15:19,061 --> 00:15:20,127
Yeah.
317
00:15:20,129 --> 00:15:23,930
What do they say?
318
00:15:23,932 --> 00:15:27,367
It sounds like you don't like
to talk about it. Yeah.
319
00:15:27,369 --> 00:15:30,003
But they scare you.
Mm-hmm.
320
00:15:30,005 --> 00:15:32,406
We're going to try to get rid
of those shadow people, okay? Yeah.
321
00:15:32,408 --> 00:15:35,008
You want us to get rid of them.
Don't you? Mm-hmm.
322
00:15:35,010 --> 00:15:36,843
Yeah.
Yeah.
323
00:15:36,845 --> 00:15:38,912
Okay.
324
00:15:41,850 --> 00:15:44,851
This is a bad room,
really bad.
325
00:15:44,853 --> 00:15:47,220
How?
What do you mean?
326
00:15:47,222 --> 00:15:52,059
There's this gaping hole
in the closet.
327
00:15:54,096 --> 00:15:58,131
It's like a hole to where
the shadow people come from.
328
00:15:58,133 --> 00:16:01,068
It's only shadow people
coming out of there,
329
00:16:01,070 --> 00:16:06,640
and there's, like,
arms and hands coming out.
330
00:16:06,642 --> 00:16:08,508
I've never seen this before.
331
00:16:08,510 --> 00:16:11,411
They'll grab your legs
and your feet,
332
00:16:11,413 --> 00:16:14,281
your hands, your wrists.
333
00:16:14,283 --> 00:16:17,651
This is bad and bad.
334
00:16:17,653 --> 00:16:19,653
I don't know.
I don't feel good in here.
335
00:16:19,655 --> 00:16:24,091
I feel horribly ill,
like I'm going to puke.
336
00:16:24,093 --> 00:16:25,859
Oh...
337
00:16:31,300 --> 00:16:33,800
What kind of danger
do these shadow people pose?
338
00:16:33,802 --> 00:16:35,969
Living people, they could take
them in there, you know?
339
00:16:35,971 --> 00:16:37,871
They would just,
like, disappear.
340
00:16:37,873 --> 00:16:42,609
Shadow people, usually, they
focus on children and elderly,
341
00:16:42,611 --> 00:16:44,978
and they can
cause them to die.
342
00:16:59,835 --> 00:17:01,035
Digging into
the property deeds,
343
00:17:01,037 --> 00:17:03,237
one family stood out to me,
the Morgans.
344
00:17:03,239 --> 00:17:05,572
Now, they were here
for 65 years,
345
00:17:05,574 --> 00:17:08,008
so I expected there
to be some deaths,
346
00:17:08,010 --> 00:17:10,544
but according to the genealogist
I'm headed to meet,
347
00:17:10,546 --> 00:17:13,480
these people were
dropping like flies.
348
00:17:19,989 --> 00:17:21,822
So, Luana, I appreciate
you meeting with me.
349
00:17:21,824 --> 00:17:23,223
Why'd you want
to meet here?
350
00:17:23,225 --> 00:17:25,292
Well, the people that owned
the property before your client,
351
00:17:25,294 --> 00:17:27,728
the Morgan family,
had a barn like this one.
352
00:17:27,730 --> 00:17:30,297
Okay.
They got here about 1892.
353
00:17:30,299 --> 00:17:32,433
They were there
until about the 1950s.
354
00:17:32,435 --> 00:17:33,734
Now, you mentioned on the phone
that they suffered
355
00:17:33,736 --> 00:17:35,169
just about
every kind of death.
356
00:17:35,171 --> 00:17:38,572
Well, it all revolves around
this woman, Martha Morgan.
357
00:17:38,574 --> 00:17:40,240
She was born
on the property
358
00:17:40,242 --> 00:17:41,875
and lived there
most of her life.
359
00:17:41,877 --> 00:17:43,277
Her father
gave her property
360
00:17:43,279 --> 00:17:45,679
when she reached adulthood
to build a home of her own,
361
00:17:45,681 --> 00:17:48,082
and that's when
the tragedies really began.
362
00:17:48,084 --> 00:17:50,451
Did she live in the same house
as my clients?
363
00:17:50,453 --> 00:17:52,653
No.
Okay. So let's start with the first one.
364
00:17:52,655 --> 00:17:54,221
The first one
would be her niece.
365
00:17:54,223 --> 00:17:58,158
Mary is only 17 days old
when she caught bronchitis
366
00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,127
and suffered
severe convulsions,
367
00:18:00,129 --> 00:18:01,895
and she died
in the family home.
368
00:18:01,897 --> 00:18:03,230
All right.
369
00:18:03,232 --> 00:18:06,433
So this kind of a death
at that time, not uncommon.
370
00:18:06,435 --> 00:18:09,370
No, it's not,
but the next one is.
371
00:18:09,372 --> 00:18:13,474
In 1928, Martha's husband,
Albert, was killed by a train.
372
00:18:13,476 --> 00:18:15,876
He was crossing the tracks
and was T-boned
373
00:18:15,878 --> 00:18:17,244
by a speeding freight train.
374
00:18:17,246 --> 00:18:20,514
It carried him almost a quarter
of a mile down the tracks,
375
00:18:20,516 --> 00:18:22,716
and he was
only 32 years old.
376
00:18:22,718 --> 00:18:24,051
That's tragic.
377
00:18:24,053 --> 00:18:25,953
Believe it or not,
there was another accident
378
00:18:25,955 --> 00:18:27,287
involving a train.
379
00:18:27,289 --> 00:18:29,990
Martha's cousin, Norma,
was on her way home from a dance
380
00:18:29,992 --> 00:18:31,392
with her boyfriend, Rex.
381
00:18:31,394 --> 00:18:33,861
Rex saw a train approaching,
thought he could make it,
382
00:18:33,863 --> 00:18:35,996
but he slammed on his brakes
at the last minute,
383
00:18:35,998 --> 00:18:38,298
and they were hit by the train
and killed instantly.
384
00:18:38,300 --> 00:18:39,800
Geez.
385
00:18:39,802 --> 00:18:43,537
And here's a picture of the two
victims and their mangled car.
386
00:18:43,539 --> 00:18:44,905
So that's two more deaths,
387
00:18:44,907 --> 00:18:46,740
and then these aren't
just normal deaths, either.
388
00:18:46,742 --> 00:18:47,975
There's still more.
389
00:18:47,977 --> 00:18:50,477
Her mother dies the year
after that train accident
390
00:18:50,479 --> 00:18:52,613
of stomach cancer
in the family home.
391
00:18:52,615 --> 00:18:54,515
Okay.
And what about the father?
392
00:18:54,517 --> 00:18:56,850
Her dad dies 2 years later
of a heart attack.
393
00:18:56,852 --> 00:18:58,986
I mean, it sounds like everybody
dropped dead around her.
394
00:18:58,988 --> 00:19:01,655
That's right.
395
00:19:04,593 --> 00:19:08,195
There's a lot of loss
and sadness in this room.
396
00:19:08,197 --> 00:19:11,131
I'm hearing crying
and crying and crying.
397
00:19:11,133 --> 00:19:13,033
It's a woman.
398
00:19:13,035 --> 00:19:15,002
She's older,
399
00:19:15,004 --> 00:19:20,707
I guess, like,
60s or 70s, even.
400
00:19:20,709 --> 00:19:23,177
And do you get anything on her
connection to the property?
401
00:19:23,179 --> 00:19:25,179
I think she lived here.
402
00:19:25,181 --> 00:19:28,482
Somebody calling her Grandma.
403
00:19:28,484 --> 00:19:30,984
This woman lost everything.
404
00:19:30,986 --> 00:19:33,387
Now I'm dizzy
and freaked out.
405
00:19:36,225 --> 00:19:39,092
So far,
I have a family being torn apart
406
00:19:39,094 --> 00:19:41,361
by the activity in their home
on a property
407
00:19:41,363 --> 00:19:44,398
that has seen at least
six tragic deaths,
408
00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,534
but I want to see
if there's anything else.
409
00:19:47,536 --> 00:19:50,103
Turns out
one of Martha Morgan's cousins
410
00:19:50,105 --> 00:19:53,073
committed the bloodiest murder
in Layton's history,
411
00:19:53,075 --> 00:19:54,508
and it happened
just down the road
412
00:19:54,510 --> 00:19:56,076
from my clients' property.
413
00:19:58,714 --> 00:20:02,182
Anytime there's a homicide like
this, I got to look into it.
414
00:20:02,184 --> 00:20:03,717
I'm heading over to meet
with a former cop
415
00:20:03,719 --> 00:20:05,819
who's going to tell me
exactly what happened.
416
00:20:13,395 --> 00:20:15,162
So, Steve, this homicide
I came across,
417
00:20:15,164 --> 00:20:16,497
what do we know
about the perp?
418
00:20:16,499 --> 00:20:19,967
The killer was a guy
by the name of Delbert Green.
419
00:20:19,969 --> 00:20:23,437
Here's
Delbert Green's mugshot.
420
00:20:23,439 --> 00:20:26,473
And this is Martha Morgan's
cousin by marriage? Right.
421
00:20:26,475 --> 00:20:29,076
So what do we know about
this guy, Green's background?
422
00:20:29,078 --> 00:20:30,310
He was a violent guy.
423
00:20:30,312 --> 00:20:31,645
He was a jealous guy.
424
00:20:31,647 --> 00:20:34,748
He was a person who could
not control his emotions.
425
00:20:34,750 --> 00:20:37,284
He'd already spent time
in prison for attempting
426
00:20:37,286 --> 00:20:39,820
to kill a guy who was flirting
with his wife,
427
00:20:39,822 --> 00:20:41,154
Gladys.
Okay.
428
00:20:41,156 --> 00:20:42,856
So take me to the night
of the homicide.
429
00:20:42,858 --> 00:20:45,459
Well, on January 4, 1930,
430
00:20:45,461 --> 00:20:48,328
Delbert, his wife, Gladys,
and their child
431
00:20:48,330 --> 00:20:50,330
were at their
appointment in Ogden.
432
00:20:50,332 --> 00:20:53,033
They got into an argument.
He hit her.
433
00:20:53,035 --> 00:20:56,336
She took the 4-month-old baby
over to her stepfather's house,
434
00:20:56,338 --> 00:20:59,406
which is just a few doors down
from your clients' property.
435
00:20:59,408 --> 00:21:03,977
So about midnight, Delbert shows
up at the stepfather's house.
436
00:21:03,979 --> 00:21:05,279
He's upset.
437
00:21:05,281 --> 00:21:06,580
He's got a gun.
438
00:21:06,582 --> 00:21:10,751
The stepfather, James, and he
get into a big argument,
439
00:21:10,753 --> 00:21:12,953
and Delbert shoots him.
440
00:21:12,955 --> 00:21:15,489
That's
his death certificate.
441
00:21:15,491 --> 00:21:18,292
So after Delbert shoots James,
he goes into the kitchen,
442
00:21:18,294 --> 00:21:22,162
and there he shoots his wife,
Gladys, and her mother, Lola.
443
00:21:22,164 --> 00:21:24,097
Both of the women died.
444
00:21:24,099 --> 00:21:28,335
There's their death
certificates.
445
00:21:28,337 --> 00:21:29,970
So what happened
to the baby?
446
00:21:29,972 --> 00:21:31,605
Does he just leave
it alone in the house?
447
00:21:31,607 --> 00:21:33,941
Yeah.
He flees the scene.
448
00:21:33,943 --> 00:21:35,842
A manhunt ensues.
449
00:21:35,844 --> 00:21:37,210
They search the whole
neighborhood,
450
00:21:37,212 --> 00:21:39,813
including where
your client lives.
451
00:21:39,815 --> 00:21:42,082
So he decides he's going
to kill himself.
452
00:21:42,084 --> 00:21:44,651
He's got one bullet left.
453
00:21:44,653 --> 00:21:46,420
He puts it to his head,
pulls the trigger.
454
00:21:46,422 --> 00:21:48,488
It jams.
Okay.
455
00:21:48,490 --> 00:21:49,623
Five hours later,
456
00:21:49,625 --> 00:21:51,825
Ogden detectives show up
and arrest him.
457
00:21:51,827 --> 00:21:53,994
It's going to be
a pretty easy conviction.
458
00:21:53,996 --> 00:21:56,296
His lawyer went
for an insanity plea.
459
00:21:56,298 --> 00:21:59,299
The psychiatrist said,
"He's crazy."
460
00:21:59,301 --> 00:22:00,701
It didn't help.
461
00:22:00,703 --> 00:22:02,469
After 6 years of appeals,
462
00:22:02,471 --> 00:22:04,471
they executed him
by firing squad
463
00:22:04,473 --> 00:22:07,407
on July 10, 1936.
464
00:22:07,409 --> 00:22:09,676
He was only 28 years old.
465
00:22:14,416 --> 00:22:16,950
I think the young dead guy
and the old man trapped
466
00:22:16,952 --> 00:22:19,987
in the wall
did not like each other.
467
00:22:19,989 --> 00:22:21,555
You have any idea
what connection they might have
468
00:22:21,557 --> 00:22:22,956
to the properties?
469
00:22:22,958 --> 00:22:26,727
The older man, I believe,
owned the house at some point.
470
00:22:26,729 --> 00:22:29,296
The younger guy,
I don't know
471
00:22:29,298 --> 00:22:31,398
what his connection is,
honestly.
472
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,967
There's some relationship
between these two.
473
00:22:33,969 --> 00:22:35,502
I can't pin it, though.
474
00:22:35,504 --> 00:22:36,903
Something happened.
475
00:22:36,905 --> 00:22:41,575
They had some kind
of altercation,
476
00:22:41,577 --> 00:22:43,610
an angry fight.
477
00:22:43,612 --> 00:22:45,245
I am hearing a gunshot.
478
00:22:45,247 --> 00:22:46,279
Did they kill each other?
479
00:22:46,281 --> 00:22:48,115
Did one kill one
and then kill himself?
480
00:22:48,117 --> 00:22:50,083
I don't know because
I could swear
481
00:22:50,085 --> 00:22:53,820
that younger guy
killed himself.
482
00:22:53,822 --> 00:22:56,823
He died later.
483
00:22:56,825 --> 00:23:01,294
He's sick, mentally sick,
I think.
484
00:23:03,966 --> 00:23:05,699
This is, like, painful.
485
00:23:14,176 --> 00:23:15,742
If you need us
to investigate
486
00:23:15,744 --> 00:23:17,511
unexplained activity
in your home,
487
00:23:17,513 --> 00:23:20,747
go to the "Dead Files" page
at travelchannel.com.
488
00:23:20,749 --> 00:23:22,315
Click on "Help Me, Dead Files"
to submit your story,
489
00:23:22,317 --> 00:23:23,417
and we'll help if we can.
490
00:23:31,060 --> 00:23:33,194
Another thing caught
my eye in research.
491
00:23:33,196 --> 00:23:36,230
The property's first owner
was a pretty hardcore Mormon.
492
00:23:36,232 --> 00:23:37,998
Now,
this guy was a polygamist,
493
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,634
a member of a militia
and an ex-con.
494
00:23:40,636 --> 00:23:42,069
I'm on my way
to meet a historian
495
00:23:42,071 --> 00:23:44,471
who's looking into
this guy for me.
496
00:23:51,347 --> 00:23:52,546
So, Rob, thanks
for meeting me, again.
497
00:23:52,548 --> 00:23:53,781
I appreciate that.
498
00:23:53,783 --> 00:23:54,848
What do we know
about the man
499
00:23:54,850 --> 00:23:56,217
that first lived
on my clients' property?
500
00:23:56,219 --> 00:23:58,485
His name
is John Richard Barnes.
501
00:23:58,487 --> 00:24:00,854
He was born
in England in 1833,
502
00:24:00,856 --> 00:24:04,124
so he immigrated to
the United States in 1853
503
00:24:04,126 --> 00:24:05,192
with his family.
504
00:24:05,194 --> 00:24:07,795
When does he wind up
on my clients' property?
505
00:24:07,797 --> 00:24:09,797
Mid-1850s.
506
00:24:09,799 --> 00:24:11,232
So you said he was
part of a militia.
507
00:24:11,234 --> 00:24:13,033
What did you find out
about him?
508
00:24:13,035 --> 00:24:15,736
The U.S. Government wanted
to assert its authority
509
00:24:15,738 --> 00:24:17,705
on this new territory,
510
00:24:17,707 --> 00:24:19,773
and Native Americans
511
00:24:19,775 --> 00:24:21,942
were suffering
from the encroachment
512
00:24:21,944 --> 00:24:23,944
of Europeans on their land.
513
00:24:23,946 --> 00:24:25,145
And the Mormons
were right in the middle.
514
00:24:25,147 --> 00:24:27,715
Mormons were right
in the middle of it.
515
00:24:31,287 --> 00:24:34,521
I see a male,
Native American.
516
00:24:34,523 --> 00:24:36,223
He's very specific-looking.
517
00:24:36,225 --> 00:24:39,727
He has long hair,
and he has black eyes,
518
00:24:39,729 --> 00:24:43,564
and he's really,
really angry.
519
00:24:43,566 --> 00:24:45,899
He's barely human anymore.
520
00:24:45,901 --> 00:24:47,568
The living people
are seeing this,
521
00:24:47,570 --> 00:24:51,005
and they've had experiences
with this thing.
522
00:24:53,609 --> 00:24:54,575
Now, Rob,
you mentioned on the phone
523
00:24:54,577 --> 00:24:55,576
this guy was a polygamist.
524
00:24:55,578 --> 00:24:57,411
Now, did he get
in trouble for that?
525
00:24:57,413 --> 00:24:58,545
He did.
526
00:24:58,547 --> 00:25:00,314
At one point, he had
three wives altogether.
527
00:25:00,316 --> 00:25:03,284
He was arrested
for polygamy.
528
00:25:03,286 --> 00:25:08,455
He was sentenced to 3 months
in prison and given a $350 fine.
529
00:25:08,457 --> 00:25:12,259
Then he was pardoned
by President Grover Cleveland.
530
00:25:12,261 --> 00:25:15,396
Here's an article on it.
All right. So let me get this straight.
531
00:25:15,398 --> 00:25:17,331
The president
pardoned this guy.
532
00:25:17,333 --> 00:25:18,599
He did.
All right.
533
00:25:18,601 --> 00:25:20,501
So now, he did his time,
got his pardon.
534
00:25:20,503 --> 00:25:22,102
How did it work out for him
with his family?
535
00:25:22,104 --> 00:25:25,306
His first wife, Emily,
she died at the age of 40
536
00:25:25,308 --> 00:25:28,108
due to complications
from childbirth.
537
00:25:28,110 --> 00:25:30,110
She wasn't even the only
member of the family
538
00:25:30,112 --> 00:25:31,912
who died of childbirth.
539
00:25:31,914 --> 00:25:35,249
In 1881, his daughter, Mary,
gave birth to a baby boy.
540
00:25:35,251 --> 00:25:37,051
Okay.
And shortly after the birth,
541
00:25:37,053 --> 00:25:39,720
she died at the age
of 23 years old.
542
00:25:39,722 --> 00:25:42,022
That's sad.
It was.
543
00:25:48,164 --> 00:25:50,531
I saw several disturbing
things on my walk,
544
00:25:50,533 --> 00:25:52,766
but two really stood out --
545
00:25:52,768 --> 00:25:55,636
first, the dead man
being absorbed by the house.
546
00:25:55,638 --> 00:25:57,738
I was in a basement.
547
00:25:57,740 --> 00:26:04,044
I saw a male who was sinking
into the wall.
548
00:26:04,046 --> 00:26:06,880
This whole part
of his head was out,
549
00:26:06,882 --> 00:26:10,651
and then I could see
the soles of his shoes.
550
00:26:10,653 --> 00:26:12,786
Next, I described
the bedroom closet,
551
00:26:12,788 --> 00:26:14,888
which was
some kind of portal.
552
00:26:14,890 --> 00:26:18,559
It was in a small bedroom,
553
00:26:18,561 --> 00:26:21,862
and then the back of the closet
was very important
554
00:26:21,864 --> 00:26:26,667
because I saw a lot
of hands coming out.
555
00:26:26,669 --> 00:26:31,505
It was, like,
sucking you in.
556
00:26:31,507 --> 00:26:34,475
Amy, is this what you saw?
557
00:26:34,477 --> 00:26:35,676
Yes.
558
00:26:54,463 --> 00:26:57,364
Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
559
00:26:57,366 --> 00:26:59,466
we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other
560
00:26:59,468 --> 00:27:02,436
and our clients
for the first time.
561
00:27:02,438 --> 00:27:04,571
Amy, I'd like you to meet Craig
and his daughter, Emily.
562
00:27:04,573 --> 00:27:06,373
Craig here bought
this house for Emily
563
00:27:06,375 --> 00:27:08,875
and her family 6 months ago.
564
00:27:08,877 --> 00:27:12,879
This is her husband, Justin,
and their son, Hayden, who's 6.
565
00:27:12,881 --> 00:27:14,081
Hayden's getting
the worst of it,
566
00:27:14,083 --> 00:27:15,882
and the activity
is so bad here,
567
00:27:15,884 --> 00:27:17,184
Emily grabbed him
and moved in
568
00:27:17,186 --> 00:27:19,386
with her dad
about 5 months ago.
569
00:27:19,388 --> 00:27:20,821
Justin decided to stay.
570
00:27:20,823 --> 00:27:22,189
He's not leaving.
571
00:27:22,191 --> 00:27:24,157
Activity's ripping the family
apart, and Craig thinks,
572
00:27:24,159 --> 00:27:25,525
if we don't come up
with a solution,
573
00:27:25,527 --> 00:27:27,961
somebody's going
to get seriously hurt.
574
00:27:27,963 --> 00:27:30,163
So now that Amy knows
a little bit about you guys,
575
00:27:30,165 --> 00:27:32,232
I'm going to ask her
to describe her walk.
576
00:27:34,603 --> 00:27:36,870
The interesting thing
about this walk was
577
00:27:36,872 --> 00:27:40,173
that I was getting
quite a bit of information
578
00:27:40,175 --> 00:27:44,511
on the living people
as well as the dead.
579
00:27:44,513 --> 00:27:46,913
When I was in the kitchen,
580
00:27:46,915 --> 00:27:51,418
I encountered
a living woman's energy.
581
00:27:51,420 --> 00:27:56,156
I placed her at approximately
my age or slightly younger,
582
00:27:56,158 --> 00:27:58,759
seemed extremely upset
and desperate
583
00:27:58,761 --> 00:28:01,862
because she's had
experiences her whole life,
584
00:28:01,864 --> 00:28:05,866
and the thing was was that
she had this underlying thought
585
00:28:05,868 --> 00:28:08,168
that she was
somehow to blame
586
00:28:08,170 --> 00:28:11,238
for these experiences
manifesting.
587
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,974
She feels responsible
588
00:28:13,976 --> 00:28:17,244
for her kids
having freak-outs,
589
00:28:17,246 --> 00:28:19,980
so she kind of feels like
because it runs her family,
590
00:28:19,982 --> 00:28:23,250
she's kind of at
the root of the problem.
591
00:28:27,823 --> 00:28:29,489
You okay?
592
00:28:32,194 --> 00:28:33,393
When you're able to,
593
00:28:33,395 --> 00:28:35,495
just explain to Amy
how you're feeling.
594
00:28:35,497 --> 00:28:37,331
I do blame myself.
595
00:28:37,333 --> 00:28:39,299
I worry about Hayden.
I'm his mom.
596
00:28:39,301 --> 00:28:41,735
I'm supposed to protect him,
and I can't.
597
00:28:44,273 --> 00:28:46,139
I knew there was
something in here
598
00:28:46,141 --> 00:28:48,108
before my parents
bought the house.
599
00:28:48,110 --> 00:28:50,944
I didn't think it would
be this bad.
600
00:28:50,946 --> 00:28:54,715
If I had known, I would
have reacted much earlier.
601
00:28:54,717 --> 00:28:56,216
This is horrible.
602
00:28:59,054 --> 00:29:00,887
So when I went into
the basement,
603
00:29:00,889 --> 00:29:04,624
I saw two dead males.
604
00:29:04,626 --> 00:29:08,295
The first male,
who's in his 50s or 60s,
605
00:29:08,297 --> 00:29:11,698
he may have owned
this property at one time.
606
00:29:11,700 --> 00:29:15,102
The second guy was younger,
30s or 40s,
607
00:29:15,104 --> 00:29:17,371
and I couldn't get
how exactly
608
00:29:17,373 --> 00:29:19,806
he was connected
to the property,
609
00:29:19,808 --> 00:29:23,210
but he bothered me
a great deal.
610
00:29:23,212 --> 00:29:29,983
I got that he had some severe
mental issues when he was alive.
611
00:29:29,985 --> 00:29:33,286
I knew that there was some kind
of a relationship
612
00:29:33,288 --> 00:29:34,821
between these two men,
613
00:29:34,823 --> 00:29:38,225
but I didn't understand
what kind of a relationship.
614
00:29:38,227 --> 00:29:42,696
Whatever it was, though,
there was a lot of anger there,
615
00:29:42,698 --> 00:29:46,066
and I saw them
fighting and yelling.
616
00:29:46,068 --> 00:29:47,901
I heard
the sound of a gunshot,
617
00:29:47,903 --> 00:29:51,204
and I wasn't sure which male it
was coming from,
618
00:29:51,206 --> 00:29:54,975
but I did get the overwhelming
feeling of death,
619
00:29:54,977 --> 00:29:56,743
and I think
that one died first,
620
00:29:56,745 --> 00:29:58,612
and then the other
one died later.
621
00:29:58,614 --> 00:30:03,383
Felt like the younger one
committed suicide.
622
00:30:03,385 --> 00:30:05,719
Pretty sure I know
what she's talking about.
623
00:30:05,721 --> 00:30:07,287
There was a murder here
in the 1930s
624
00:30:07,289 --> 00:30:09,990
that had direct ties
to the owners of this property.
625
00:30:09,992 --> 00:30:12,359
A woman named Martha Morgan
used to own this land,
626
00:30:12,361 --> 00:30:15,729
and she had a cousin through
marriage named Delbert Green.
627
00:30:15,731 --> 00:30:17,397
Apparently,
this guy was a real nutjob.
628
00:30:17,399 --> 00:30:20,834
On January 4, 1930,
Delbert and his wife, Gladys,
629
00:30:20,836 --> 00:30:21,768
got into a huge fight.
630
00:30:21,770 --> 00:30:23,336
Now, Delbert got
violent with her.
631
00:30:23,338 --> 00:30:25,505
Gladys told him
she wanted a divorce,
632
00:30:25,507 --> 00:30:27,808
took their 4-month-old kid
and took off.
633
00:30:27,810 --> 00:30:29,910
She came right down
the block from this house.
634
00:30:29,912 --> 00:30:33,380
Delbert grabbed the pistol
and tracked Gladys down here.
635
00:30:33,382 --> 00:30:35,182
When he arrived,
he got into a huge argument
636
00:30:35,184 --> 00:30:37,050
with Gladys' stepfather,
James.
637
00:30:37,052 --> 00:30:39,186
Delbert pulled out a gun
and shot James,
638
00:30:39,188 --> 00:30:40,454
and he dropped dead.
639
00:30:40,456 --> 00:30:42,022
He was 40 years old.
640
00:30:42,024 --> 00:30:44,057
James is dead,
but Delbert's not finished yet.
641
00:30:44,059 --> 00:30:45,392
He's just getting started.
642
00:30:45,394 --> 00:30:47,527
Matter of fact, he ends
up killing his wife, Gladys,
643
00:30:47,529 --> 00:30:49,996
and her mother, Lola,
then he fled.
644
00:30:49,998 --> 00:30:51,731
Huge manhunt for this guy.
645
00:30:51,733 --> 00:30:53,800
You said you pick up
on a possible suicide.
646
00:30:53,802 --> 00:30:55,001
Oh, yeah.
647
00:30:55,003 --> 00:30:56,403
So Delbert knows
he's going to get caught,
648
00:30:56,405 --> 00:30:59,539
so he tried killing himself,
but he failed.
649
00:30:59,541 --> 00:31:01,875
Cops show up, obviously,
and they arrest him.
650
00:31:01,877 --> 00:31:04,010
Now, you said the guy
had mental issues, right?
651
00:31:04,012 --> 00:31:05,745
Delbert pled insanity,
and matter of fact,
652
00:31:05,747 --> 00:31:07,981
the psychiatrist
gave a diagnosis to the court,
653
00:31:07,983 --> 00:31:09,349
saying he was crazy,
654
00:31:09,351 --> 00:31:11,251
but they wound up
killing him anyway.
655
00:31:11,253 --> 00:31:15,689
Delbert was executed by a
firing squad on July 10th, 1936.
656
00:31:15,691 --> 00:31:17,958
He was 28 years old.
657
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,961
I managed to track down
a photo of Delbert's mugshot.
658
00:31:23,632 --> 00:31:25,131
Now, do you think Delbert
could be the younger guy
659
00:31:25,133 --> 00:31:26,466
you saw down
in the basement?
660
00:31:26,468 --> 00:31:28,802
Yes.
661
00:31:28,804 --> 00:31:31,771
Now, do these two guys in
the basement affect the living?
662
00:31:31,773 --> 00:31:36,176
Yes, but the experiences
are mainly coming
663
00:31:36,178 --> 00:31:37,477
from this younger male,
664
00:31:37,479 --> 00:31:39,112
so he'll
literally touch you,
665
00:31:39,114 --> 00:31:41,548
and your whole, like, say,
your shoulder
666
00:31:41,550 --> 00:31:46,953
just goes, like, almost numb
from the cold he's projecting,
667
00:31:46,955 --> 00:31:50,657
and he's got a real problem
with women.
668
00:31:50,659 --> 00:31:54,461
Also, he's very good
at projecting his emotions.
669
00:31:54,463 --> 00:31:55,962
He's like,
"Get out of here."
670
00:31:55,964 --> 00:31:58,098
He just feels it
and pushes it out,
671
00:31:58,100 --> 00:32:02,202
and you will feel
that "Get out."
672
00:32:02,204 --> 00:32:04,504
He's a very,
very sick person.
673
00:32:04,506 --> 00:32:07,774
Some stuff you hit on is a lot
of what they're experiencing.
674
00:32:07,776 --> 00:32:09,876
Now, you said he has
a problem with women.
675
00:32:09,878 --> 00:32:10,977
Do me a favor.
676
00:32:10,979 --> 00:32:12,546
Tell Amy what happens
to you in here.
677
00:32:12,548 --> 00:32:15,549
I mean, if I'm in this house
longer than 20 minutes,
678
00:32:15,551 --> 00:32:18,385
I get brutally hit.
679
00:32:18,387 --> 00:32:21,187
Amy, you said this guy
can also project cold.
680
00:32:21,189 --> 00:32:22,756
Convey the story
that Justin had told me.
681
00:32:22,758 --> 00:32:23,823
I'm sure you know.
682
00:32:23,825 --> 00:32:25,825
Justin was laying
in bed one night,
683
00:32:25,827 --> 00:32:29,829
and he could feel, like,
this cold breath,
684
00:32:29,831 --> 00:32:32,132
and all of a sudden,
his whole body got cold.
685
00:32:32,134 --> 00:32:35,435
What kind of danger is Justin
in, that he's here by himself?
686
00:32:35,437 --> 00:32:36,903
Is he healthy?
687
00:32:36,905 --> 00:32:40,707
Yeah, but he's depressed,
I mean, for multiple reasons,
688
00:32:40,709 --> 00:32:43,643
I mean, with the situation
we're in.
689
00:32:43,645 --> 00:32:45,912
Amy, you said this guy
could project emotions.
690
00:32:45,914 --> 00:32:47,948
Do you think he's making
Justin depressed?
691
00:32:47,950 --> 00:32:49,449
Yes.
692
00:32:49,451 --> 00:32:51,585
He could absolutely
be picking up on that.
693
00:32:53,722 --> 00:32:56,556
I think you could also
see this young guy,
694
00:32:56,558 --> 00:33:00,660
more than likely,
as, like, a shadowy figure.
695
00:33:00,662 --> 00:33:03,797
He also can leave the home.
696
00:33:03,799 --> 00:33:05,732
Did both of them leave?
697
00:33:05,734 --> 00:33:08,301
No,
just the younger male.
698
00:33:08,303 --> 00:33:10,003
Now, you told me,
Craig, that you see
699
00:33:10,005 --> 00:33:11,738
shadow figures at your house.
700
00:33:11,740 --> 00:33:14,407
All the time, all the time.
701
00:33:14,409 --> 00:33:18,712
This large shadow thing
stands in the doorway,
702
00:33:18,714 --> 00:33:23,516
and we just cannot get away
being alone.
703
00:33:23,518 --> 00:33:24,918
So they have a lot
of these experiences
704
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,086
from the younger guy.
705
00:33:26,088 --> 00:33:27,454
Would they have any
from the older guy?
706
00:33:27,456 --> 00:33:31,491
He has a really hard time
interacting with living people.
707
00:33:31,493 --> 00:33:37,497
He is currently in the process
of being absorbed by the wall,
708
00:33:37,499 --> 00:33:39,799
so he's kind of
stuck down there,
709
00:33:39,801 --> 00:33:41,668
and he's, you know,
710
00:33:41,670 --> 00:33:43,536
essentially becoming
part of the house
711
00:33:43,538 --> 00:33:47,140
and losing his consciousness
to the house.
712
00:33:47,142 --> 00:33:49,409
And I did have a sketch
done.
713
00:33:53,682 --> 00:33:56,116
Craig, now, this is going
to blow your mind
714
00:33:56,118 --> 00:33:57,083
after what you told me.
715
00:33:59,821 --> 00:34:01,254
Oh, my God.
716
00:34:01,256 --> 00:34:03,390
This is hideous.
717
00:34:07,462 --> 00:34:10,563
My grandson tells us,
in that basement,
718
00:34:10,565 --> 00:34:13,133
that there is
a person or a thing,
719
00:34:13,135 --> 00:34:16,302
puts his arms like this
and falls back into the wall.
720
00:34:19,675 --> 00:34:21,541
So how come this guy's stuck
in the wall in the basement?
721
00:34:21,543 --> 00:34:26,913
This is not what he wants
to be having happen to him.
722
00:34:26,915 --> 00:34:31,985
He's being pulled into
the wall by shadow people.
723
00:34:31,987 --> 00:34:33,086
All right.
So now, we got shadow people.
724
00:34:33,088 --> 00:34:34,454
What's the story with them?
725
00:34:34,456 --> 00:34:37,624
The house is being, like,
overrun with shadow people.
726
00:34:39,628 --> 00:34:40,960
Here's what's happening.
727
00:34:40,962 --> 00:34:43,430
In the green room...
728
00:34:43,432 --> 00:34:44,898
That's Hayden's room.
729
00:34:44,900 --> 00:34:48,635
...a doorway was opened
to their dimension,
730
00:34:48,637 --> 00:34:51,037
which
I have never seen before
731
00:34:51,039 --> 00:34:53,673
and, frankly,
terrifies me.
732
00:34:53,675 --> 00:34:56,976
They'll grab your legs
and your feet,
733
00:34:56,978 --> 00:34:59,813
your hands, your wrists.
734
00:34:59,815 --> 00:35:02,682
This is bad and bad.
735
00:35:02,684 --> 00:35:07,620
I got paranoid that any living
person that's in that room
736
00:35:07,622 --> 00:35:10,690
could potentially
be dragged, physically,
737
00:35:10,692 --> 00:35:14,094
into the closet
by these things.
738
00:35:14,096 --> 00:35:19,232
He has had a shadow person
crawl up underneath his blanket,
739
00:35:19,234 --> 00:35:22,302
saying he wants
to be his friend.
740
00:35:22,304 --> 00:35:25,839
Obviously, I told him,
"No, don't talk to them."
741
00:35:25,841 --> 00:35:28,675
Mm-hmm.
"They're not your friend."
742
00:35:28,677 --> 00:35:31,377
I really hated being
in that room,
743
00:35:31,379 --> 00:35:33,513
and I was only in there
for 5 minutes,
744
00:35:33,515 --> 00:35:35,181
and it made me sick,
745
00:35:35,183 --> 00:35:40,620
and I've never seen a doorway
like that before.
746
00:35:40,622 --> 00:35:45,325
And the shadow people are coming
and going all the time,
747
00:35:45,327 --> 00:35:47,660
and they take children.
748
00:35:47,662 --> 00:35:51,264
They can just come and,
like, kidnap Hayden, like,
749
00:35:51,266 --> 00:35:55,535
just physically take him
into their dimension.
750
00:35:55,537 --> 00:35:58,505
I did have a sketch done
of what I saw.
751
00:36:03,979 --> 00:36:06,579
Oh, [bleep] look at this,
right here.
752
00:36:06,581 --> 00:36:09,983
Take a look at that.
753
00:36:09,985 --> 00:36:11,484
Oh, my God.
754
00:36:11,486 --> 00:36:14,721
This is unbelievable.
755
00:36:14,723 --> 00:36:16,823
I had no idea.
756
00:36:16,825 --> 00:36:18,925
Pisses me off. It's like
he can't even be a kid.
757
00:36:18,927 --> 00:36:21,060
He's so scared.
758
00:36:21,062 --> 00:36:22,729
This is why I don't...
759
00:36:22,731 --> 00:36:25,665
I mean, he just
goes off the deep end.
760
00:36:25,667 --> 00:36:27,967
He's been doing
just crazy things.
761
00:36:27,969 --> 00:36:29,569
He'll start growling at you.
762
00:36:29,571 --> 00:36:31,171
He'll start pretending
to bite you,
763
00:36:31,173 --> 00:36:33,439
He's actually choked me.
764
00:36:33,441 --> 00:36:34,541
I mean,
you can look at him,
765
00:36:34,543 --> 00:36:37,510
and you can see
there's nothing there.
766
00:36:37,512 --> 00:36:40,046
I was so disturbed to think
767
00:36:40,048 --> 00:36:43,216
that something could cause
this child to act this way.
768
00:36:43,218 --> 00:36:46,586
He's being influenced,
because that's not my son.
769
00:36:46,588 --> 00:36:48,988
Mm-hmm.
You know, my son's a sweet little boy.
770
00:36:48,990 --> 00:36:50,723
Sometimes, I don't
even recognize him.
771
00:36:50,725 --> 00:36:55,061
Is this why?
772
00:36:55,063 --> 00:36:56,262
Actually, no.
773
00:36:56,264 --> 00:37:00,133
It's this guy.
774
00:37:00,135 --> 00:37:04,971
An attachment has been created
between him and your son.
775
00:37:04,973 --> 00:37:06,739
He's a murderer.
776
00:37:06,741 --> 00:37:09,475
He's a lunatic.
777
00:37:09,477 --> 00:37:11,878
Any idea why this guy
attached himself to Hayden?
778
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,682
He is a child,
so he's far more open.
779
00:37:15,684 --> 00:37:18,518
He's vulnerable,
and he's a sensitive,
780
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,920
so it's easy pickings.
781
00:37:23,792 --> 00:37:25,458
You okay, Emily?
782
00:37:25,460 --> 00:37:26,559
Yeah.
783
00:37:26,561 --> 00:37:30,196
Well, no, I'm not okay.
784
00:37:30,198 --> 00:37:31,798
This is worse
than I thought.
785
00:37:50,585 --> 00:37:51,985
So Craig, Emily,
it's a good thing
786
00:37:51,987 --> 00:37:53,319
you called us in when you did.
787
00:37:53,321 --> 00:37:55,655
You both thought
Hayden was in danger,
788
00:37:55,657 --> 00:37:58,792
but you had no idea
how extensive it was,
789
00:37:58,794 --> 00:38:02,062
but we still haven't
addressed the big question.
790
00:38:02,064 --> 00:38:04,064
Is it safe for you
to move back in here
791
00:38:04,066 --> 00:38:05,665
and start your life over,
792
00:38:05,667 --> 00:38:07,834
or do you need
to convince Justin to get out
793
00:38:07,836 --> 00:38:10,036
and leave the keys to this place
by the front door?
794
00:38:10,038 --> 00:38:12,105
For that answer, I'm going
to turn it over to Amy.
795
00:38:15,143 --> 00:38:19,846
You have quite a few things
to deal with here.
796
00:38:19,848 --> 00:38:22,248
Hayden's the priority.
797
00:38:22,250 --> 00:38:23,917
Dealing with a mentally ill,
798
00:38:23,919 --> 00:38:26,019
young male that has
attached himself
799
00:38:26,021 --> 00:38:29,389
to Hayden will be traumatic,
800
00:38:29,391 --> 00:38:31,324
but what I want you to do
801
00:38:31,326 --> 00:38:35,829
is to find
a very compassionate,
802
00:38:35,831 --> 00:38:41,101
strong person
who is a psychic
803
00:38:41,103 --> 00:38:44,737
and also a Reiki master.
804
00:38:44,739 --> 00:38:50,210
They are going to remove
the chords from Hayden.
805
00:38:50,212 --> 00:38:56,049
Once the chord is cut,
the psychic is going to attach
806
00:38:56,051 --> 00:38:58,718
that chord to themselves.
807
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:03,857
The psychic Reiki master
will deal with him.
808
00:39:03,859 --> 00:39:07,827
Once he's tied into
the Reiki master,
809
00:39:07,829 --> 00:39:10,463
is he gone from this house?
Yes.
810
00:39:10,465 --> 00:39:15,735
When this occurs,
how will Hayden behave?
811
00:39:15,737 --> 00:39:19,038
You'll see a difference
in his behavior.
812
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,242
He's not going to be,
necessarily, 100%.
813
00:39:22,244 --> 00:39:24,944
He's been bound to a dead guy
who's psychotic.
814
00:39:24,946 --> 00:39:29,916
Okay.
So he's going to have PTSD from that.
815
00:39:33,922 --> 00:39:35,922
Yeah.
816
00:39:35,924 --> 00:39:39,359
I just...
817
00:39:39,361 --> 00:39:42,762
Something I don't
want him to go through.
818
00:39:42,764 --> 00:39:45,165
What's the alternative
if they do nothing?
819
00:39:45,167 --> 00:39:47,467
Well, he grows up
to become him.
820
00:39:47,469 --> 00:39:48,501
Oh, no.
821
00:39:48,503 --> 00:39:49,903
- No.
- It's going to be done.
822
00:39:49,905 --> 00:39:51,271
There's no two ways
about it.
823
00:39:51,273 --> 00:39:53,139
This is my baby.
824
00:39:53,141 --> 00:39:56,309
I can't --
I can't have this.
825
00:39:58,847 --> 00:40:01,080
All right. So how do they deal
with this doorway?
826
00:40:01,082 --> 00:40:02,749
I'm not going to lie.
827
00:40:02,751 --> 00:40:06,719
This is really bad,
but I have hope
828
00:40:06,721 --> 00:40:11,758
because this was
opened by a child.
829
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,161
So it's very,
very possible
830
00:40:15,163 --> 00:40:18,831
that, if you get
six psychics and mediums
831
00:40:18,833 --> 00:40:20,833
who work
in the paranormal,
832
00:40:20,835 --> 00:40:26,739
you might be able to contain
this and remove shadow people.
833
00:40:26,741 --> 00:40:29,275
What's the difference if a kid
did it or if an adult did it?
834
00:40:29,277 --> 00:40:31,878
It didn't innately form.
835
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,680
- On its own.
- Correct.
836
00:40:33,682 --> 00:40:35,949
Which means it can
be closed, as well.
837
00:40:35,951 --> 00:40:37,650
Yes.
838
00:40:37,652 --> 00:40:40,486
So what exactly are these
six sensitives going to do?
839
00:40:40,488 --> 00:40:42,622
They're all going to bring
their equal talents,
840
00:40:42,624 --> 00:40:45,792
skills and abilities
to the situation,
841
00:40:45,794 --> 00:40:47,527
and they are going
to use those skills
842
00:40:47,529 --> 00:40:49,562
to try and remove
the shadow people
843
00:40:49,564 --> 00:40:52,498
and shut the doorway
they're coming through.
844
00:40:52,500 --> 00:40:54,801
So if they follow all the advice
you've given them,
845
00:40:54,803 --> 00:40:56,803
will the activity stop
at Craig's house?
846
00:40:56,805 --> 00:40:59,639
If it's completely connected
with the things
847
00:40:59,641 --> 00:41:02,342
that are going on here,
yes.
848
00:41:02,344 --> 00:41:05,178
Emily, if you follow Amy's
advice, it sounds like you,
849
00:41:05,180 --> 00:41:08,915
Justin and Hayden can go back
to being a family again.
850
00:41:08,917 --> 00:41:09,983
Yes.
851
00:41:09,985 --> 00:41:12,085
I got to get Hayden
taken care of.
852
00:41:12,087 --> 00:41:14,754
He's not moving back
into this house
853
00:41:14,756 --> 00:41:17,657
until everything
is taken care of.
854
00:41:17,659 --> 00:41:18,992
How about you, Grandpa?
How you feeling?
855
00:41:18,994 --> 00:41:21,127
It starts tomorrow morning.
856
00:41:21,129 --> 00:41:23,696
I'm going to get Hayden
taken care of.
857
00:41:23,698 --> 00:41:26,499
This thing,
it's got to die.
858
00:41:28,937 --> 00:41:31,070
Emily and Craig have
a lot of work to do
859
00:41:31,072 --> 00:41:33,406
if they want to rid this home
of shadow people
860
00:41:33,408 --> 00:41:36,376
and the murderer
who's attached to Hayden,
861
00:41:36,378 --> 00:41:38,711
but with the help
of a psychic Reiki master
862
00:41:38,713 --> 00:41:40,246
and a team of mediums,
863
00:41:40,248 --> 00:41:41,681
they can work as a family
864
00:41:41,683 --> 00:41:43,249
to free themselves
from the evil
865
00:41:43,251 --> 00:41:45,451
that's been tearing them apart.
866
00:41:45,501 --> 00:41:50,051
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